What is bad is when a handful of corporations control sector after sector. But look, there's nothing in that book to suggest that it is bad for people to go out and start a business, to come up with innovation. SI: If you made all the rules, there would still be large corporations. SI: Even though you say it's okay to be angry about capitalism, there's a place for capitalism in the world as you envision it. Republicans understand that in red states it is very hard often for people to access a doctor. mental health counseling and low cost prescription drugs. You walk into a community health center, you get affordable health care, dental care. But this is what we can do: We can expand primary health care and community health centers to every region of the country.We now have 30 million people accessing community health centers. What I want to see, a Medicare-for-all system, ain't going to happen. On what Sanders thinks he can accomplish in a divided Congress We're going to take them on to create a nation that works for you. The problem is the wealthy are getting richer. And then you have a gap there where you have people like Trump coming along and say, 'You know what the problem is? It's immigrants, it's gays, it's transgender people.' And you get people angry around those issues rather than Democrats saying, I'll tell you what the problem is. But what I think has happened over the years, and this is no great secret as a result of a lot of corporate contributions, the Democratic Party has kind of turned its back on the needs of working class people. not that working class people agree with Republican views. That is the most important political question of our time. Well, that is an enormously important political issue. SI: You write about the working class: 'You can't win elections without the overwhelming support of the working class.' It seems that many Republicans now agree with you and openly court the working class and get a lot of working class votes. In my view, politicians do well when they stand up and fight for working people. In 2016 when I was running for president, I won a landslide victory in West Virginia. Do you sympathize with his political situation? From his perspective, he's representing a very conservative state that votes for Republicans for president hugely and needs to bring them something that they can believe in. SI: I was going to ask if you're still angry at someone like Joe Manchin. These are folks who've got a whole lot of money from wealthy people and large corporations and they do their bidding. SI: Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, who would be described as more moderate or more conservative, and represent more conservative states– This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

For all his anger and demands for systemic change, the senator told NPR he is working within a divided Congress to make more modest changes that he thinks are possible. Today Larry Sanders is a Green Party politician in the United Kingdom.Īnd Bernie Sanders, after two presidential campaigns, now chairs the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee. 'And kind of intellectually opened up my eyes to the world that we're living in.' 'We didn't have a lot of books in the house, and my brother brought books into the house and talked with me about politics, talked to me about history, talked to me about psychology,' Sanders told NPR. He dedicates the book, in part, to his older brother Larry, who introduced him to authors ranging from psychoanalysis founder Sigmund Freud to political theorist Karl Marx, who, along with Friedrich Engels, established the far-left ideology known as Marxism. He says his anger grows in part out of his youth in a struggling family in Brooklyn in the 1940s and 1950s. It's All Politics Sanders: 'My Goal Right Now Is To Win This Election'

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